How to Avoid Dating Dishonest Chinese Men | Speaking of China

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  1. 唐朝君子
    唐朝君子 May 7, 2010 at 2:39 am | | Reply

    i’m sorry for that 混蛋 hurt Jessica ‘s heart.
    so many assholes ,playboys in this planet nowdays
    kick him in the butt may let her feels better 😛

  2. Jessica
    Jessica May 7, 2010 at 12:27 pm | | Reply

    What I said in my article was more speaking to generalities, not to any specific situation, but thanks for the sentiment just the same, 唐朝君子. 🙂 I can’t say my heart was ever broken by a dishonest Chinese guy, but the whole stealth marriage (and sometimes stealth kids) thing has come up before regarding guys that my friends and I have dated in the past. Western women are often seen as easy prey and some guys would assume we wouldn’t really mind being with a married guy. When in doubt, you could always ask to see his hukou book! (kidding, of course … if you don’t feel like you can trust a guy to be honest about his marital status then you probably shouldn’t be with him in the first place, right?)
    .-= Jessica´s last blog ..Father, Son and a Big Music Festival (with mom too) =-.

  3. J
    J May 7, 2010 at 4:35 pm | | Reply

    You can always ask if he is in a relationship. I believe most chinese men will give a honest answer. No matter where you live, the good ones always far more than bad ones, unless you are extremely unlucky…

    Misconception of western women, or vice versa misconception of Chinese men, it is a bit problem. If so, why not a western woman date a Chinese guy who has some insights. I guess it makes your life a bit easier, no? Good luck.

    P.S. Date a chinese guy is not a rocket science, lol.

  4. Crystal
    Crystal May 8, 2010 at 3:33 am | | Reply

    J! I didn’t really understand what you said.
    Do you mean that Chinese men have a different perception of what is right and what is wrong, and that they don’t see a problem in dating someone while being in relationship? So they can do it and still be good men, and upon being asked if they are in relationship calmly answer – “Yes, my love, I am in relationship”?
    .-= Crystal´s last blog ..Why Thai Laugh When Chinese Cry? =-.

  5. J
    J May 8, 2010 at 2:13 pm | | Reply

    Crystal,
    I think you got me wrong. What I meant was that, a western woman better date a Chinese guy who has some insights about who they really are in terms of misconception of western female.

    If there is such option, why not go for it. I have living aboard for quite a long time, most of my mates in college; they all went back home for good. I guess they are the group in somewhat has a better understanding of western female, not all, but the chances are higher than someone never meets western ladies in person but prejudged them based on somewhat fiction or silly American TV soap.

  6. Jo
    Jo May 9, 2010 at 3:21 am | | Reply

    This was a very good blog… as a western woman living in China … I see many things…. and Most Chinese have a lot of secrets… so you have to really go slow and do your research…. They hide things … so be careful… My husband and I dated and lived together for a year before his parents even knew he had a girlfriend….. just be careful in your search.
    .-= Jo´s last blog ..New Theme: Bueno =-.

  7. George
    George May 9, 2010 at 8:51 pm | | Reply

    Pretty bizarre! Here in the US Asian men complain about Asian women dating white men, and white women not wanting to date Asian men and then we have situations in China where a western woman falls for a married Chinese guy who takes her for a ride! Must be one good looking Chinese dude!

  8. Chris
    Chris May 11, 2010 at 3:44 am | | Reply

    Really sorry to hear about such negative experiences. Being an overseas Chinese, I had to constantly shrug off stereotypes since day 1. It sucks that Chinese are stereotyping Americans all the same.

    For better or worse, people are people everywhere.

  9. Bruce
    Bruce May 21, 2010 at 3:02 pm | | Reply

    Really sorry to hear about such negative experiences. Being an overseas Chinese, I had to constantly shrug off stereotypes since day 1. It sucks that Chinese are stereotyping Americans all the same.

    For better or worse, people are people everywhere.

  10. June
    June July 3, 2010 at 9:19 am | | Reply

    This is a great post. I’m not a western woman, but I was raised in Canada for the last 20 years of my life. I was originally born in Hong Kong, and had moved to China for work 2 years ago.

    Many of my colleagues know of my western upbringing and have outright asked me if western girls are loose, and have lots of casual sex.

    Another male colleague and I went out on a trip to Hunan and he tried to sexually assault me also. I’ll never go out with just one man again.

    Others are always proposing marriage to me in very short periods of time, which is also very strange, makes me think of what kind of hidden agendas they have got.

    Even though I’m Chinese, the Mainlanders are very very strange.

  11. fern
    fern August 1, 2010 at 4:30 am | | Reply

    I am also in the sexually assaulting boat, but it was by a monk on a mountain. It’s actually happened twice. They used the same move even though it’s in a different city. The man will see I’m alone, ask me what I’m reading, look at it (even though he can’t understand the English in it) and then reach out to touch me. If you don’t run by then you’ll have no chance. 🙁
    Just a warning to any other girls out there that think that monks are celibate and won’t try to rape you. It’s a stupid misconception and generally it’s bad to be alone anywhere with a guy you don’t know in China or anywhere else.

  12. 路易师父
    路易师父 August 23, 2010 at 11:31 am | | Reply

    So rule of thumb is to date as though you are 15 years old. Got it.
    Perhaps the assumptions of some chinese men are influenced by western norms that encourage people to cast off the binds of childhood and engage in ‘adult’ and seemingly scandalous behavior. Whether or not innocence is actually neediness i don’t know but the two are easily tightly entwined. Sociosexual attitudes in western culture mimic the independance and self interest common in western politics, economics and religion. Why is it foreign men are so oft inclined to date chinese girls while the opposite is so rare? To be honest I don’t really like China that much and I’m leaving soon so I don’t really care. I sincerely hope that everyone who posted gets laid anyway.

  13. Mike
    Mike August 19, 2011 at 8:40 pm | | Reply

    Chinese or Foreign men a-like, the married ones are more attractive!

    I am sorry that your friend fall for a married man. Just remember, not all Chinese men are bad, and not all Chinese men are married!

  14. Katz
    Katz December 2, 2011 at 9:35 pm | | Reply

    Try getting a can of pepper spray if they have that in china. They have them in America in most states that is legal. Thanks for the warning about the sexually frustrated monks. I’d recommend kicking them down there were it hurts them and then pushing them off a mountain if it is steep enough usually does work. Or a walking stick with some heft to it. A sock full of quarters work good as well. I wonder how hard chinese men are to beat up:) J/K

    Good advice whomever said take friends with you or course a good hard left hook or a sock full of quarters works well too or pepper spray. Watch your surroundings carefully too that helps. You can also buy a portable sound alarm that’s about 150db. Or a taser if they are allowed. What we ought to do is get a bunch of females and prey on men. Like these monks get a bunch of women to beat them up and throw them into some mud. Or have your friends hide approach the monk alone and when he grabs you your friends jump out and on him then throw him so it’d be called monk bouncing. hehe. I can imagine all the monks being thrown off the mountains and landing in a heap

  15. C.S.
    C.S. November 9, 2012 at 10:23 pm | | Reply

    I can’t remember if this was your idea or not, but this is what worked for me:

    Play dumb and pretend you can’t read Chinese. Also pretend you don’t know what the hukou debate’s all about. Then get him to explain it to you — and ask to see his. It’ll say whether he’s single or married on it.

    Works. Every. Time. At least for the wives…

    I can’t tell you how many guys I weeded out this way. (30+?)

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