Are China’s AMWF Couples Rarer Just Because Only 25% of Foreigners in China Are Women? | Speaking of China

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  1. Susan Cao
    Susan Cao June 27, 2017 at 7:24 am | | Reply

    My life in a small US University town with a nearby twin (total pop. 40,000 students out of a total 60,000 people or so) shows dozens and dozens of Western Male – Asian Female couples while my husband and I are the only AMWF in the area. In fact, some of the biggest stares we get are from WMAF couples who seem to think we are quite unique.

  2. Sveta Li
    Sveta Li June 27, 2017 at 10:48 am | | Reply

    Actually, from my personal observations in Hollywood it’s American woman/ colored male that are pretty rare. Heck, one of the reasons I stopped watching TV shows is because I was tired of them making me feel bad about myself. I also rarely see relatable Jewish women as love interests, but there are plenty of Jewish men with other love interests. Hollywood is a wrong place to seek and to demand true diversity beyond the black and white dichotomy. For a safe place, books are the only answer.

    1. Autumn
      Autumn June 28, 2017 at 3:10 am | | Reply

      Made me laugh, Sveta. It’s true, Hollywood feels hopeless. The majority of the writers and show runners are white males, and quite a few of them are Jewish. So, yeah, plenty of unworthy Jewish men get the hot female leads (of all colors) in TV and movies. I think of it as the Judd Apatow effect.

  3. Julie Ni
    Julie Ni June 28, 2017 at 11:22 am | | Reply

    I’m in America and we have the same bias here BIG time. It is a struggle that surpasses what I ever imagined possible!!!

  4. Just some Asian person
    Just some Asian person June 28, 2017 at 4:05 pm | | Reply

    The number of male foreigners in China is definitely NOT the reason why there are so many foreign men with Chinese women and so few Chinese men with foreign women. The reason is pretty obvious, but not pleasant to talk about. Maybe my comment will get deleted by Jocelyn, but I will talk about it anyway.

    The main reason is that many East Asian and Southeast Asian women are so desperate for the white male genitals that these women have absolutely ZERO standards when it comes to white men. They will throw themselves at any white male they can find. The men know this, and this is why there are so many of them going to Asia/China, resulting in more foreign men than foreign women.

  5. ManilaMemories
    ManilaMemories July 1, 2017 at 9:44 am | | Reply

    When recently, I decided to “revisit the online AMWF “scene,” I thought it would be again, mostly about seeing “cute” pictures of couples and reading stories from people discussing the challenges of maintaining relationships amid cultural/social differences. I didn’t think much about what I considered an “irrelevant” issue regarding this so-called “gender imbalance.” I can say, truthfully, that among my Filipino and other Asian friends, we have never ever discussed the topic, not even once. It was only this year, upon frequenting these AMWF sites, that I realized some people apparently considered it a “problem.” Referring again to myself as a “short, average-looking” Asian-American guy, I can say with utmost certainty, that if I walked into a singles gathering tonight and approached the most attractive women–of any race, hoping to secure a “date,” I would likely be rejected ten-out-of-ten times….And frankly, I see nothing wrong with that! Serves me right for acting in a way that is completely out-of-character. Besides, I also consider that to be “rude” behavior. So I really have no issue with ladies who supposedly “don’t date” Asian guys–or anyone, in particular–for whatever reason. These women are not depriving them–including me, of anything that we are reportedly entitled to….Incidentally, I do consider myself “undateable,” only because I am simply “not available.”

  6. A Foreign Girl in China
    A Foreign Girl in China July 6, 2017 at 6:02 pm | | Reply

    As a white woman in China I always assumed it was because Chinese men found us unattractive.

    1. ManilaMemories
      ManilaMemories July 8, 2017 at 10:43 am | | Reply

      Uh, I would normally avoid making hasty generalizations….I certainly believe that a lot of Western women are viewed as “attractive,” but not enough to spark “interest” in the eyes of many Asian guys, myself included. I’ve encountered numerous examples of such women, and while I admired their physical beauty, I had absolutely no intention nor desire for any sort of romantic relationship, whatsoever.

      And I also prefer to treat the issue as involving people on a one-on-one basis, but there seems to be tendency by some to jump to erroneous conclusions based on demographic social trends that they find “problematic,” and the one of the most often cited (based on my observation) is the ratio between AMWF vs. AFWM marriage rates or anything related….And furthermore, it appears to attract some of the most vulgar and disgusting comments targeting individuals who apparently have done nothing wrong….Seriously, how can those who date and marry according to personal preferences be deserving of any sort of vilification….Why, just because one’s choices do not meet the approval of some anonymous, third-party busybody? SMH Indeed, but Chinese men and other Asian males DO get to choose, as well–and the rarity of AMWF couples in China (and I am assuming that this the case throughout all of Asia) as well as in the United States, does reflect this….Incidentally, I am reminded of an article published in the New York Times back in 2012, entitled “For Asian-American Couples, a Tie that Binds.” It discusses a “noticeable” decline in the rate of interracial marriages involving Asians in contrast to national trends that were and presumably still are moving in the opposite direction….

      Journalist Rachel L. Swarns offers a much more plausible explanation for this demographic pattern: Increased immigration over the past several decades–dramatically expanding the number of Asians available for marriage and dating….So if relevant social sites like EastMeetEast are any indication, Asian men and women increasingly seek out those similar to themselves. And what’s wrong with that? It is also worth noting that oftentimes, Asian women equal and surpass other racial groups in terms of physical attractiveness, intelligence, personality, character, earning capacity, and educational attainment…. With that in mind, I think it is valid to say that the Justin Chans (author: Are Asian Men ‘Undateable?’) and Alex Tizons (author: Big Little Man) of the world, remain a small, albeit vocal minority.

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