Love or Fetish? On "Yellow Fever" and Creepy/Sketchy Attractions | Speaking of China

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  1. JM
    JM April 8, 2013 at 7:59 am | | Reply

    WWCM relationships are so incredibly rare it is like a survey where they have 40 participants. You can’t really infer much information from it. Like those make up adverts where 8/10 agree that it works, with only 25 participants.

    If you hang around various overseas born Chinese forums. The men date what they can get which with the constant negative stereotyping and the constant CM are the least desirable of all men on the planet. WW, CW anything which comes my way.

    Even the speed dating scene is tailored for CW+WM and CM are not actually welcome!

  2. askdsk
    askdsk April 8, 2013 at 8:39 am | | Reply

    I will ignore this topic all together. People who rationalize the most tend to be the ones who internalize everything.

  3. Sveta
    Sveta April 8, 2013 at 9:30 am | | Reply

    I keep getting jerks. Makes me think I’ll be better off single for the rest of my life. Will have kids, just won’t marry.
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  4. centaur
    centaur April 8, 2013 at 11:42 am | | Reply

    Why is fetish a bad thing? Why isn’t fetish considered just as a beautiful human emotion as love?

    Some people like to smoke pot, some like to collect high heels, some like to have sex with Asian/White/Black/Latino/… Some marry for financial reasons, and some marry for greencards.

    What’s the definition of “sketchy reasons”?? When a man marries a woman for her perceived submissiveness, is that “sketchy?”

    What about when a woman marries a man for his perceived manliness or dominance, is that equally “sketchy?”

    Jeff Yang’s blog piece just looks all too confused, in a typical ABC-ish way.

  5. Bruce
    Bruce April 8, 2013 at 1:11 pm | | Reply

    @ Sveta , where do yo meet those men who are jerks? What does he need to possess in order to be your man?

    You guys can check all over the internet and you will find tons and tons of white men seeking out asian women. I’m not lying!! Check it out! Asian men normally want to find asian women but why can’t white men only look for white women? What disturbs me is that those white men go out to pick up asian women and TALK bad about asian men. Do you see or hear Asian men with white women talk bad about white men huh? I told you countless times that asian women are not submissive. I know tooooooooo many asian women who will yell the S**T out of you. Most asian women will of course work with you as couples but some will try to control you. I see that alot. Later on, please write to me to tell me that if they’re submissive or not. So stop watching your chinese movies! Right now, I don’t feel anything special about talking or seeing another person who is Black, White, Hispanic or Asian!

  6. Manny
    Manny April 8, 2013 at 3:11 pm | | Reply

    @ Jocelyn. Yee haa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is by far one of the best articles you have produced. I am so delighted that you have finally honored my request of the past to post something about Western men and Asian females. I am savoring the article and am drooling now. I love the links to “They Are All So Beautiful.” Why did I not discover this site sooner? I, along with those other white boys in that site, am loving it. I have been afflicted with the “yellow fever” disease as well and I can definitely relate to those other white and black men who have the same disease as I have. There is no cure for it but there is only treatment for it. The treatment is to go and get one of those hot Asian babes just as I have one now. So, far my ABC gf is able to satisfy all of my fantasies, except she is not so submissive or obedient though. Perhaps, because she was born and rasied in the U.S., she was not imbued with the traditional Chinese values of obeying and being submissive to her man. Oh well. I guess no girl can be perfect.

  7. Bruce
    Bruce April 8, 2013 at 5:06 pm | | Reply

    Manny, LMAO !! I will treat you. I’ve found out a cure for “Yellow Fever” . Let me get my gears out from my closet..

  8. Tarryn-Maree
    Tarryn-Maree April 8, 2013 at 5:22 pm | | Reply

    I have met a White girl with Yellow Fever once…. full blown! :) She even liked my Fiance for a time and would come around his store talking about Asian related topics all the time, mostly not even Chinese….more about Japanese lol!

    But most of the time I hear from my White collegues that I’ve got an Asian Fetish. My Fiance is Chinese and many were taken aback when we started dating. I asked what’s their reason for saying its a fetish, their answer: He’s Asian, it’s just weird! WTH! I asked and if I dated a White guy? they said that’s not weird at all.

    I have met Asian guys looking for trophy wives! Just 1 or 2 really lol….I have met several that were curios about the local girls here in Cape Town, be it Indian, Colored/Mixed,White or Black,so basically anybody that’s not Asian. Somebody different! And lastly I know many that also have a -EasternLooking/exoticBrownMixed- girl fetish lol I don’t know what to call it…..but I was stunned by this. They said it was extremely EXOTIC and the mixed ancestry made them more curios and interested in them! :) But anyway, Each to his own. Overall these guys are my Fiance’s friends, we hang out a lot and they frequently talk to me about dating and lots of other things, and none of these guys are awful men. They’re pretty nice.

  9. Sheila Liu
    Sheila Liu April 8, 2013 at 8:08 pm | | Reply

    I think most people are just nice and friendly. However I really came across some creepy guys in here and back in China; my solution is to keep distance and immediately walk away. I think to be jerk-proof is not a specific topic for Asian women but for every women globally. Maybe the exotic feeling can affect my opinion temporarily, but just with a little bit time and rationale, I get to decide whether this is a jerk or not no matter this person’s ethnic.

  10. zanni
    zanni April 8, 2013 at 9:29 pm | | Reply

    i think the whole AMWF myth that our relationships are somehow more authentic or will last longer than AFWM relationships, or any others, is another kind of stupid martydom i dont want. ‘wow you OVERCAME race/stereotypes to be in love’, um no, we have a mutual respect and make each other laugh and cook food together and stuff, and we have just as much potential to annoy each other or secretly be fetishizing each other as the next race.

  11. Bruce
    Bruce April 9, 2013 at 8:27 am | | Reply

    @Manny,
    I will cure your Yellow Fever completely. Step #1 : Send your ass to Africa for 10 yrs. You will see no asian women. Step #1: Disconnect all communications including TV, texting etc. Step #3 : No asian porn/magazines. After 10 yrs, I will show you an asian woman in front of you. If you throw up when you see her, then you’re cured . If you still have the “disease” , send your ass back to Africa for another 20 yrs. hahahhahaehehehhehehehehehehahahha LMAO.

    Bruce :)

  12. Bruce
    Bruce April 9, 2013 at 8:31 am | | Reply

    Dating and marrying Asian women are two different issues. Dating = playing games.

  13. Sveta
    Sveta April 9, 2013 at 10:25 am | | Reply

    Tried craiglist a few times because I don’t know anyone who could help me find someone single who lives in my area, tried to meet them through a Korean meetup group, but no luck. Ones I tend to run into are sweet at start but then they bare their fangs and/or disappear without letting me know why. If I should ever be a writer, I’ll NEVER write stories with happy endings.
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  14. C
    C April 9, 2013 at 10:37 am | | Reply

    Bruce,

    One could also lose Yellow Fever, if his asian lover dumps him for someone bettter when his personality or sex gets dulled. :=P

  15. C
    C April 9, 2013 at 10:43 am | | Reply

    Sveta,

    Focus on what you want in a guy, not what type of guys you keep getting that disappoints you. If you continuously keep at thinking that’s all you’re gonna get (shady dudes), that’s the signal, you’re sending out to the Universe! those jerks will keep coming at ya.

  16. Bruce
    Bruce April 9, 2013 at 11:27 am | | Reply

    Seem like those white men on the videos talk about dating asian women. Damn I want to hear about marriage not dating..

    @C, yes that’s another way. Is it true that most White men look for asian women because they assume that those women are submissive? Why do you want to CONTROL a woman? I don’t understand. This is 2013 man. I’ve never thought about getting a submissive woman. I want a woman who can help me with everything not someone who always relies on me or my commands .

    @Sveta, craiglists.com won’t help you. I know it’s free but you know “free” stuff is never good. First of all, don’t tell those men what you look for in a guy. Just let everything happens slowly and naturally. There is no perfect guy/woman out there. I’m not perfect either. I’m perfect from A-Z BUT there is always a fire in me like a ticking time bomb. That’s why I like to do alot of fun, peaceful and healthy things to cool me down. Sooo don’t look for Prince Charming, he won’t be that charming in the long run. Look for an honest, down to earth guy.. someone similar to me …..

  17. C
    C April 9, 2013 at 12:13 pm | | Reply

    Bruce,
    That’s one of the main reasons why white men (the ones who are naive and ignorant) like Asian females for that. You’ll see them going to Asia picking out young chicks that are way too young for them. It’s all about demand and supply. It may be the 21st century here, but some people’s brains will never be as evolved as yours! :-P

    Sveta,
    Have you tried dating websites?

  18. Simon
    Simon April 9, 2013 at 12:59 pm | | Reply

    Not this topic again, gets kinda tired. I believe its not our place to demean others seeking happiness. If both sides are happy (white males and the Asian gals that worship them) then it should be AOK by the rest of us.
    As for the last quote on this entry. “I sincerely think that because the barriers to entry for Asian male/white female relationships are higher, the vast majority of AM/WF couples who do get together and eventually marry do so carefully, with real commitment and good intentions on both sides.” I would agree with that. Its just that the power dynamics for AMWF couples are such that there is less to be open for abuse. Its not usually about control or power, mostly its just about love, however there may be a day when that will change and the Chinese or Asian guys might exude more power in the form of social standing and wealth, and you may see some unhealthy matchups of poor western women being slave to her Asian husbands whim.

  19. David
    David April 9, 2013 at 1:12 pm | | Reply

    Each to her or his own…In South Africa they think East Asian women are ugly….

    http://lifeissavage.com/2013/04/04/outrage-over-published-uct-poll-on-which-race-is-the-most-attractive-pic/

    “African and Indian respondents are the only groups that found members of their own racial groups unattractive. They, and East Asians, were also ranked the lowest by other races.”

  20. Tarryn-Maree
    Tarryn-Maree April 9, 2013 at 2:25 pm | | Reply

    @David…..it’s generally true that Easy Asians, both male and female are viewed as unattractive, but as a South African citizen myself I know there are people that also think differently! I have many guy friends that have a ‘thing’ for East Asian women. Something like fetish I guess. However, not a single one has not mentioned Japanese porn as their basis for being interested in Asian women. Even so I have seen a few local guys with Asian girls and they seem to be pretty genuine. I have seen more local guys here with East Asian girls than Asian guys with local girls. Still, East Asians with locals here are not common overall.

  21. Allen
    Allen April 9, 2013 at 2:26 pm | | Reply

    “I believe it is not our place to demean others seeking happiness.”

    If only others would also be equally magnanimous towards Asian men and Western women seeking happiness,……….. but I digress.

  22. Manny
    Manny April 9, 2013 at 2:47 pm | | Reply

    @Bruce. Thanks for advising me on how to cure my afflicted “yellow fever” disease. Who says I want to cure it? Perhaps I am enjoying this disease. I once knew a Filippino male college student who had “white fever” as he wanted only beautiful white girls. He dated and banged a few white chicks but later somehow lost the fever, and the last time I heard any news about him, he had a Filippina girlfriend. I guess he was cured of his “white fever.” But I love my ABC girl and I do not think that I can cure my disease and do not want to cure it as I like it too much. I told you before (I think) that I banged a few white girls but they did not seem to turn me on and so I had to close my eyes and imagined that they were Asian girls during intercourse to maintian my erection and arousal.

  23. David
    David April 9, 2013 at 2:59 pm | | Reply

    @Tarryn-Maree. What you say is true. I know some Afrikaans speaking men married to Singaporean Chinese women. I also know one Afrikaans woman in her forties who married a Singapore Chinese male and has two daughters but never told her family back in South Africa who are pretty racist and would never visit her in Singapore. They still think that she is unmarried. She also knows that if they ever found out and she went back home she will be dead.

  24. Bruce
    Bruce April 9, 2013 at 3:24 pm | | Reply

    @Manny, Nooooooo I want to cure your disease. You told us that you loved Chinese women since you were little when you watched Bruce Lee’s movies.” I told you before (I think) that I banged a few white girls but they did not seem to turn me on and so I had to close my eyes and imagined that they were Asian girls during intercourse to maintian my erection and arousal.” —- I think I’m Chinese but I don’t think I have this kind of issue. Maybe I have noooo fetish on anybody or anything. What is the real meaning of being “submissive” to you , Manny? My meaning is NOT… being the head of the household and a decision maker in the house. Someone who can’t make up her/his mind or you need to push him/her a little bit in order to move. Don’t tell me that you want to be a decision maker in the bedroom rather or not to do different sexual positions. What if she refuses to perform that position? Manny, you’ll slap her ass and leave a red hand mark on her fat ass? LMAO :)

    Bruce :)

  25. forest
    forest April 9, 2013 at 5:00 pm | | Reply

    Is attraction to woman a fetish ? How about pretty ones ? How about supper model pretty ones ? Add color modification (white/black/yellow) to each of above questions, is it a fetish ? When do we use word “preference” and when do we use word “fetish” ? Where do we draw a line ?
    Adding yourself in the picture and ask the same questions. Is it a fetish when you are old, homeless and hunchback ? What about you are young, rich and handsome ? What if she loves you back regardless who you are ?
    How about attraction to certain body type, facial structure, life style, personality ? How about attraction to same sex ? Is it a fetish ?
    There are many dimensions that can raise eyebrow, but at the end of day no one has an answer. I know I don’t :)

  26. Manny
    Manny April 9, 2013 at 5:06 pm | | Reply

    @ Bruce. Yes, I developed a fetish early for Asian women. I still vividly recall several scenes in those movies which sparked my interest: 1) when Bruce Lee was in Thailand (The Big Boss) at the whore house where there were several pretty Asian girls and one of them showed her breasts (yee ha!); and 2) in the Chinese Connection when the Japanese master and the Russian champion were viewing a Japanes geisha girl doing a strip tease and she bore her breasts (yee ha!).
    Being “submissive” to me means that the girl will honor my requests and follow me when I ask her to do so. And it also means that she will do what I ask (within the bounds of reasonableness).

    Yes, I want to be the decision maker especially in the bedroom. When it comes to finances though, I am more willing to defer to my Chinese gf as she appears to know how to handle money better than I. But I cannot reveal too much about me and my ABC gf regarding our intimacy now, because I promised her that I will tone down my rhetoric on this site or else I will face her wrath which I had to face one time due to my lack of care. You do recall that incident? Don’t you?

  27. Tarryn-Maree
    Tarryn-Maree April 10, 2013 at 2:10 am | | Reply

    @David

    Yeah Afrikaans Whites here are super racist, way worst than English Whites. Half of my family are Afrikaans Whites so I know all bout that. :) So it always surprises me if they date or marry out of their own culture. They can even make a fuss if their kids date an English White lol!

    I got a guy friend that says he used to have an Asian fetish, we spoke more bout it yesterday. He used to love Asian chicks when he was a teenager, esp Japanese ones. Said they were so cute he could never resist and always wanted one. But I was surprised that he said now he likes African-Americans,Latino’s and White girls more. He said when he hit 21 he started liking the full figured women and while the Asian girls he met were pretty faces they didn’t have the curves that he wanted in a lady.

    Taste really does differ and I have learnt there’s absolutely nothing wrong with it, whatever floats your boat! Even if people try to put negetive labels to your personal taste, who cares! Differences in taste makes things more intesting.

  28. Tarryn-Maree
    Tarryn-Maree April 10, 2013 at 2:17 am | | Reply

    @David
    Yeah Afrikaans Whites here are super racist, way worst than English Whites. Half of my family are Afrikaans Whites so I know all bout that. :) So it always surprises me if they date or marry out of their own culture. They can even make a fuss if their kids date an English White lol!

    I got a guy friend that says he used to have an Asian fetish, we spoke more bout it yesterday. He used to love Asian chicks when he was a teenager, esp Japanese ones. Said they were so cute he could never resist and always wanted one. But I was surprised that he said now he likes African-Americans,Latino’s and White girls more. He said when he hit 21 he started liking the full figured women and while the Asian girls he met were pretty faces they didn’t have the curves that he wanted in a lady.

    Taste really does differ and I have learnt there’s absolutely nothing wrong with it, whatever floats your boat! Even if people try to put negetive labels to your personal taste, who cares! Differences in taste makes things more intesting.

  29. Tarryn-Maree
    Tarryn-Maree April 10, 2013 at 2:18 am | | Reply

    Double post,sorry

  30. Bruce
    Bruce April 10, 2013 at 7:52 am | | Reply

    Manny, I don’t want to hear about your bedroom stories. It’s not that exciting anymore as we age. I think I care more about a woman’s personality, attitude and caring than her curvy body. I’ve looked beyond the body right now . You know some people ( men and women) who I haven’t seen for a while are out of shape . It’s scary on how people can change so fast.

  31. Bruce
    Bruce April 10, 2013 at 11:01 am | | Reply

    @Manny, you mean most of your white gfs were not “submissive” and they didn’t follow what you’ve requested?You mean you wanted to do doggies style and they refused instead settled for woman on top? funny :). It’ll be so freaking funny that you two were choking each other necks over what positions to do :). Let me tell you something about Asian culture here. Asian women are taught to respect the husbands and take care of the home and kids while the husbands go to work. Even with this kind of tradition, most asian women will NOT compromise with you. Well, most educated asian women will compromise with you and cooperate with everything. The word “submissive” sounds very scary to me and others like me. It’s like having a slave ( submissive). I don’t want to control over another weaker, “submissive” person. I thought asian women are educated enough not to be submissive instead you women are just a bunch of “dumb wood” = naive and big mouth ( talk too much). You asian women are the worse when it comes to gossip.

  32. David
    David April 10, 2013 at 11:27 am | | Reply

    @Tarryn-Maree..The name Maree sounds Afrikaans…Huegonot origin from France..the ancestor escaped in the late 1600s to avoid being put to sword after the revocation of the Edict of Nantes, right? Worked in SA during transition twenty years ago. I remember one particular event in 1993, where a bunch of seven to nine year old white Afrikaans girls gathered for a beauty contest in a hotel in Kempton, Park near the Joburg Airport holding their noses literally, when a dark skinned airline stewardess (the name said Govender) of Indian origin passed by. I asked a colored guy what they were saying, he told me..”you dont want to know” although I perfectly understood the slur they use for Indians. At Stellenbosch, all white Afrikaans women walked out when two officials for an international organization one of Japanese and another of Indian origin came to give a talk. For some strange reason all the males stayed. However, when they were leaving the car was surrounded by a bunch of Afrikaans speaking whites some with two-three year olds on their shoulders shouting racial slurs. So, I can understand exactly what you are saying. I think white Afrikaaners are still super racist and will find it tough to change.

  33. Claire
    Claire April 10, 2013 at 12:22 pm | | Reply

    I am afraid that I may be contracting yellow fever… over the past few years I find myself becoming more physically attracted to Asian men. Saying that, I’m not quite at the creepy stage just yet! Not far off though haha

    I never felt any barriers as such to being with my boyfriend but I’m sure some people do think it is odd or are surprised. The only thing that put me off being with him in the beginning was that I knew he would most likely move back to China after he finished studying and he did. This was not enough to put me off but that is not the case for everyone, depending on the situation.

  34. Manny
    Manny April 10, 2013 at 2:04 pm | | Reply

    @ Claire. You and I have the same disease then. I have “yellow fever” (ie., wanting Asian women) and you want Asian men. I have never met a white or black girl in my entire life who have the “yellow fever” for Asian men. I thought that only we white boys (and some other black and Hispanic boys) are the only ones who carry this disease. Can you tell me how you contracted this disease? I got it from watching movies and from what other white boys have been telling me.

  35. Manny
    Manny April 10, 2013 at 2:12 pm | | Reply

    @ Bruce. Firstly, I never had a white gf in the past. I said that I only banged a few of them. I was at that time experimenting to see if I can somehow date white girls consistently and cure myself of this disease. After knowing these white girls for a short time, I had sex with them to see if they can be substitutes for an Asian woman. Obviously, they failed to satisfy me whereas my current ABC girl can satisfy me.

    As for “submissive” I do not want to go into details because I got into trouble last time when I revealed too much information about what I and my ABC gf did together. Let me just say that my “China doll” is able to fully satisfy my desires. I hope that you understand.

  36. Tarryn-Maree
    Tarryn-Maree April 10, 2013 at 2:14 pm | | Reply

    @David, No wonder you know so much!I love when people can discuss another country from having personally been there and experiencing what it’s like. :) Research is fine but actually being in another country and seeing first hand are two different things.

    Maree is my mother’s maden name. It’s mostly just Afrikaans Whites and some Coloureds that have the surname. It’s pretty Afrikaans, but sounds less Afrikaans when I compare it to my maternal Grandmom’s surname: Van Der Westhuizen. Lol. As for how it got here, :) I’m not sure bout the first ancestor that brought it here but what you said could be true ;)

    You know even if that story you told me was from back in ’93 sometimes I think even after all those years not much has really changed since then. Acceptence of cultural differences here is still a major problem. If anything is too different it’s considered weird and viewed as a big negetive. East Asians are a perfect example of that. They are still viewed as ‘weird’ by most local people. I was in the local ChinaTown today with my Fiance, went into a clothiing shop and spoke with a few of his friends. 1 Chinese girl was speaking broken English to a worker and I noticed a Coloured and White lady both giggling whenever she spoke. It was so disrespectful! And the White lady told the Coloured one in Afrikaans that the Chinese girl looks even uglier when she opens her mouth. And this Chinese girl is the same girl that is seen as gorgous by her own people’s standards. Personally I think she is okay and is kind of cute, def not ugly!

  37. Tarryn-Maree
    Tarryn-Maree April 10, 2013 at 2:27 pm | | Reply

    @Claire
    :) No need to be afraid of it, if it is Yellow Fever, well then it’s your fever to cure, or not to cure ;)

    I’ve been told by many that I also have it, I strongly disagreed. I mean come on! But I think I’m willing to accept that perhaps in their eyes I do. I’m an air hostess so I deal with people every day! Me and a few friends love to discuss male passangers. And many times when Asian men are onboard almost always they will say they’re not attractive or they’re a little below average, whereas I will find a few quite attractive :) It happens quite frequently too. So I guess I can understand why they’d think I have an Asian fetish. But still if it is, well then it’s something I do not want to ever cure.

  38. Hanwu
    Hanwu April 10, 2013 at 7:02 pm | | Reply

    http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/ASIAN-POP-Opening-the-box-2464552.php

    This blonde girl was my ex at Jeff Young article above. Guess she is famous. She dated Asian exclusively and she believes her beauty the best in the world. She was at Vegas when I knew her. But lost touch after drifting away from each other.

    If you read this, this is hanwu (sexy doc as you called me before). Hope every thing goes well for you.

  39. Bruce
    Bruce April 10, 2013 at 7:03 pm | | Reply

    I will cure alll of ya !!!

  40. Xiao
    Xiao April 10, 2013 at 7:27 pm | | Reply

    When we have those men surrounding, I don’t feel like “White men are alpha males at all”.

    http://asianmuscles.tumblr.com/

    And kudos to Hollywood, suppressing Asian males as “Asexual”.

  41. Laura
    Laura April 10, 2013 at 7:45 pm | | Reply

    Jocelyn thanks for this article!

    I think that It depends on the people and the definition of “fetish”, only those who are themselves in this situation can know it, not outsiders.
    This is difficult to know, whe you are not part of the couple you are an outsider and even if you think you know everything about them, well, simply you don´t.
    Only those who are involved know their terms and situation.
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  42. Bruce
    Bruce April 11, 2013 at 8:47 am | | Reply

    Xiao, Nah you women/men don’t like asian men anyway. We are weak, ” asexual” (1.4 billion chinese . Count China ONLY). We don’t have muscular bodies. We are just weak! I’m curling 80lbs dumbbell with one arm right now. But to westerners , we are still weak. I have another announcement to make today that a Chinese Company is buying AMC theater in America. Yes, typical people in general with college degrees are stupid. They believe everything that Hollywood feeds them. China has 5000 yrs history whereas America just has 200-300 + yrs of history. I don’t know man . I will let you guys decide. You smart, educated people !

  43. Bint
    Bint April 11, 2013 at 12:35 pm | | Reply

    @Bruce,

    I believe China “has already bought” AMC.

    I’m sure that your so-called publicly believed, oftentimes racially abused teeny wieny would be strong enough to pull that 25lb dumbbell, assuming you’re now curling 80lb with your clean cut, chiseled built six packs with your wing muscles flying like red dragon.

    @Xiao,

    You’re a lucky girl. I myself a guy drool all over those guys. hahah

  44. Bint
    Bint April 11, 2013 at 12:36 pm | | Reply

    @Bruce,

    I believe China “has already bought” AMC.

    I’m sure that your so-called publicly believed, oftentimes racially abused teeny wieny would be strong enough to pull that 25lb dumbbell, assuming you’re now curling 80lb with your clean cut, chiseled built six packs with your wing muscles flying like red dragon.

    @Xiao,

    You’re a lucky girl. I myself a guy drool all over those guys. hahah

  45. Claire
    Claire April 11, 2013 at 12:57 pm | | Reply

    @Manny Your comment made me laugh so much. Could it be contagious? Maybe I caught yellow fever from reading your comments.

    I think it is more of an extension of how I feel about my boyfriend as I had never really thought about Chinese men before I met him.
    What made me think that I was edging towards yellow fever was because it is extremely rare that I find a man physically attractive without knowing them but just recently I have noticed that the likelihood of me finding an Asian men attractive seems to be higher than with other men.

    @Tarryn-Maree I don’t understand how a whole group of people can be discounted, especially if you’re coming into contact with all different kinds of people like you are.
    It is funny that you compare notes about the male passengers! What about if they fall asleep and start dribbling, are they still as attractive? haha
    The term yellow fever just makes me think of the creepy men that Jocelyn mentioned, I think ‘a preference for’ is better :D

  46. Jason
    Jason April 12, 2013 at 1:10 am | | Reply

    Sveta:

    maybe beacuse either your look or your weight
    If you don’t mind how people see you.

  47. David
    David April 12, 2013 at 6:14 am | | Reply

    @Clare..effects of apartheid. Afrikaans speaking women are among the most racist I have met anywhere. Plenty in Perth, Western Australia. My ex-boss’s niece who is Singaporean Chinese was holding hands with her white Aussie husband and walking with her four year old daughter in Perth, when a young Afrikaans woman looking at her spat out…”disgusting!” Did not see it, but dont expect my ex-boss to lie.

    Then I was in Welkolm, Orange Free State, South Africa, back in 1993, when a bunch of neighborhood Afrikaans female and male bullies showed up wanting to throw baloon at me. I pulled out my US passport and they ran fast. Later on I was asked: “you dont know what they did to a visiting Japanese girl a few years ago, do you?” Never managed to find out from them..but someone else in Vancouver, Canada told me that her cousin was beaten up for not using the maid’s bathroom (and for using the student’s bathroom) in a school in South Africa..wonder whether it is the same incident they were talking about? One of the female bullies is now a fashion model. She was only seven or eight at that time!

  48. AG
    AG April 12, 2013 at 10:26 am | | Reply

    Afrikaans are most low class whites. Low class people with inferiority complex want to make sure other people even lower than them whatever way they can. So they tend to be most racist people on the earth. KKK members are proles or low class in USA too. Neonazi also attracts mostly poor whites. It is upper class people tend to be more open-minded. Upper class or intelligent people also tend to see the world as grey instead of black/white. Black/white simple judgement is sign of low IQ who can not handle complicated matter.

  49. Tarryn-Maree
    Tarryn-Maree April 12, 2013 at 10:44 am | | Reply

    @Claire
    Lol well we judge at first strictly on face and body maybe too, not so much their behavior so if they are dribbling it shouldn’t count for much, but it’s still a put off haha!

    I prefer ‘preference’ too, fetish sometimes can sometimes sound negetive and ‘yellow fever’ sounds like you sick lol!!

    Marrying or having sex with White people was once illegal here. Things have changed, go into any major city and you’ll see many mixed race couples. In this recent years there’s been quite a huge influx of East Asians in the country, esp Chinese. And while most are not bothered by their presence their are lots of people that also disapproves. But even with so many Chinese here there’s still a big cultural misunderstanding. From spending time with many Chinese I found that most of them (recent immagrants) sort of cut themselves off from non-Chinese communities. They never mix or mingle even on friendly levels with local people here and I think that is exactly part of the problem. There’s never a real chance for the Chinese and locals to get to know each other and understand the cultures. If given the chance I’m sure local people here would think less negative and be less racist toward them.
    Lots of Chinese have told me it’s because they only came here to do business here and they also speak very bad English but they have no interest to improve much even if it could benefit them so much more, esp their businesses. But no, they are not too bothered by the language barrier, they just let their workers (mostly black foreigners) interact with customers.

  50. Tarryn-Maree
    Tarryn-Maree April 12, 2013 at 11:04 am | | Reply

    English Whites in SA are far more open than the Afrikaans Whites and also less vocal bout their racial opinions.
    If Whites here date interracially most but not always will it be and Enlgish White person.

  51. David
    David April 12, 2013 at 3:17 pm | | Reply

    @Tarryn-Maree..No one mixes much in South Africa. Whites and blacks definitely dont mix. Whites and Indians dont mix. Blacks and Indians dont mix. Even foreign blacks and local blacks dont mix. Zulus and Xhosas dont mix. Vendas dont mix with anyone…and so on. So, the Chinese have assimilated well into the no-mixing culture of South Africa. Verwoerd and Vorster have finally won their war!

  52. namenotgiven
    namenotgiven April 12, 2013 at 4:01 pm | | Reply

    Joycelyn,
    Thanks for posting about this issue. I had posted the same video link asking Manny what his opinion was. I was also curious because he has shared so much about the evolution of his relationship, and the issue of yellow fever keeps coming across my dash on may of the sites I frequent.

  53. Tarryn-Maree
    Tarryn-Maree April 12, 2013 at 4:13 pm | | Reply

    @David
    The majority of people prefer their own kind firstly. Just easier that way I guess.

    I live in Sea Point at the moment and here I see mixed couples, mainly White/Black or Coloured, not in huge numbers but some daily. However as soon as you leave the city things change. I went to Malmesbury for example and we got plenty of WTF?!! stares and reactions LOL! haha.

    Yes I agree with you. And while there most def are people that’s dating out of their race ,their are still more people that would not.

  54. David
    David April 14, 2013 at 1:48 pm | | Reply

    @Tarrin-Marie. Before I cast any more stones, I should say that people here in the US are not much better. White women who will date Asians are pretty much confined to this board and similar boards such as these. However, unlike South Africa more white men date and marry Asian women in this country.

  55. Jean
    Jean April 16, 2013 at 6:12 pm | | Reply

    ” Do you see or hear Asian men with white women talk bad about white men huh? I told you countless times that asian women are not submissive. I know tooooooooo many asian women who will yell the S**T out of you. Most asian women will of course work with you as couples but some will try to control you.”
    Just like some other women, regardless of their colour.

    The first instance of fetish, gone wrong was when I hired a Filipino woman in Canada for a major project. She was an university-educated woman, who was a picture bride to a controlling white guy in Washington. For the first time in my life, I encountered someone’s fear/terror when she said her husband drove 200 km. to find her. She didn’t want to go back into the U.S. where they lived. She had a work permit for Canada. He was beating her and controlling her movements.

    In the end, she left our workplace and returned back to Washington. I always wondered about her.

  56. Kin
    Kin April 20, 2013 at 6:09 pm | | Reply

    Only weak and insecure men would want submissive women.

  57. Oegukeen
    Oegukeen April 21, 2013 at 3:48 am | | Reply

    Really interesting article.

    I think one thing we sometimes forget is that being in a relationship is a personal thing. As long as everyone is free to enter or exit the relationship I feel it’s not my place to judge if the guy is entering the relationship for “sketchy” reasons. That’s only for his partner to decide.

    I never had interest in Asian guys before I fell in love with my Korean boyfriend, but I don’t think that give me right to judge those that do.
    Oegukeen recently posted..Loving Korean was featured on a radio segment in Korea

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