Guest Post: When I Think of Seoul, I Think of Flesh and Sweat and Sighs of Pleasure | Speaking of China

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  1. ManilaMemories
    ManilaMemories October 19, 2017 at 1:00 pm | | Reply

    I think this woman gives off a vibe similar to Western ladies who are passionate about K-dramas and how that has shaped their view of Asian men….And at the same time, she provides some proof that repudiates the assumption (that seems to exist mainly within heavily secularized dating environments) that Asian males do not exude “sex appeal.” True, a lot of them are like that which lends credence to the view that it’s “perfectly valid” for White women not to find them, “sexually attractive.” But I do not think that applies to say, someone resembling Korean actor Jang Dang Geun, Chinese heartthrob Wallace Huo, or even a young Chow Young Fat….

    1. Nasty Woman
      Nasty Woman October 20, 2017 at 4:29 am | | Reply

      Haha, I’ve actually never watched a K-drama in my life, nor do I listen to k-pop or have any serious interest in Asian cultures. I’m about as white as it gets, and he was just a hottie I ran into, who happened to be Asian.

  2. ManilaMemories
    ManilaMemories October 20, 2017 at 1:51 pm | | Reply

    In East and Southeast Asia, K-drama actors provide plenty of eye candy, that seems to rub off even with non-Asian ladies across the ocean who enjoy these type of shows….But indeed, it’s kind of refreshing to read an account that in my view, repudiates that old, tired narrative about how Asian guys seemingly cannot attract White girls and attribute that to some “sinister” connotation such as “racism.” Yup, a “hottie” is a “hottie” regardless of one’s ethnic/racial background….Even better when they can effectively communicate with the object of their affection!

  3. D-Maybe
    D-Maybe October 20, 2017 at 7:46 pm | | Reply

    Haha, this is a great story! Usually with AMWF what you get is a romantic but bland story of how a relationship developed between an Asian man and a white woman. But your story here is one of raw sexual pleasure and spontaneity that makes the AMWF pairing seem cool. And AMWF can use a little more of cool in its public relations.

  4. ManilaMemories
    ManilaMemories October 21, 2017 at 3:19 pm | | Reply

    Personally, I prefer heartwarming AMWF stories such as the post entitled “How My Husband Teaches Me About Grace” on “The Dutchinese Couple” blog….I really enjoy reading about demonstrations of love and empathy especially due to their capacity to inspire!

    1. D-Maybe
      D-Maybe October 21, 2017 at 3:56 pm | | Reply

      Nasty Woman’s story is heartwarming to me. The problem with the kind of story that you refer to is that while it can be inspiring in its demonstration of genuine love and affection between two people, it’s pretty much all we get from AMWF couples and it reinforces the stereotype of Asian men being asexual by the apparent lack of sexual energy. What Nasty Woman has shown here is that Asian men can be an attractive proposition for white women (or any woman) not just because we’re nice, attentive, considerate or whatever but because we possess the raw sexual potency to arouse and induce mind-blowing pleasure.

  5. ManilaMemories
    ManilaMemories October 21, 2017 at 4:34 pm | | Reply

    Being Filipino, and having lived in this country for decades, it was only when I came across this blog that I first learned of this so-called stereotypical notion of Asian males being “asexual” or “sexless.” Me thinks that this idea seems to reside mostly among relatively small numbers of people that I seldom interact with, in real life. In fact, not once have we ever discussed this topic with my Asian friends, whether in the United States or elsewhere because the idea is simply unthinkable. I am almost certain if I were to bring up the subject, people I know–both men and women, would think of it as being completely absurd.

  6. omni
    omni October 22, 2017 at 8:04 am | | Reply

    This is all so trashy and unnecessary. Just because the man is an Asian doesn’t elevate it to something else. This just goes to confirm that humanity is a lust machine and it strengthens the perception that western women are 随便

    1. D-Maybe
      D-Maybe October 22, 2017 at 12:31 pm | | Reply

      Don’t you think you’re being unnecessarily critical of Nasty Woman? She has been very clear in pointing out that she doesn’t have an Asian fetish and she’s not one of those fangirls of Asian pop culture. She just met a guy who happened to be Asian and had the best sex of her life, which is totally cool.

      1. ManilaMemories
        ManilaMemories October 22, 2017 at 12:53 pm | | Reply

        Just saying that there’s necessarily nothing wrong with being a “fangirl” of Asian pop culture, but “Omni’ does have a point, though….This just bolsters certain seemingly negative perceptions about Western women in ways that further degrade their image in the eyes of Asian males and others. Just look at the damage wrought by the widespread availability of hardcore porn….And I can even refer to the “stigma” attached to Philippine women being associated with the “mailorder bride” phenomenon, and how they resent being viewed within that context.

        1. D-Maybe
          D-Maybe October 22, 2017 at 1:56 pm | | Reply

          There is nothing wrong with being sexually liberated and if Asian men have a negative view of Western women because of this then the problem lies with Asian men. Are you seriously suggesting that a woman shouldn’t have sex with a guy she finds attractive purely for pleasure? This is the kind of traditional patriarchal conception of what an ideal woman should be that could in fact make Asian men appear backward and thus less attractive.

          And let’s be clear here… We’re not talking about the porn industry or the mail order brides where women could be subjected to exploitation. We’re talking about a woman who has the agency to choose to bonk a guy simply because he’s hot.

          1. ManilaMemories
            ManilaMemories October 22, 2017 at 3:21 pm |

            Well, the explosion in STD rates–especially here in the West has certainly not gone unnoticed–so tell me again about how great “sexual liberation” has been…lol Btw, I’ve around long enough to have observed how the AIDS epidemic decimated millions of lives, and nowadays, people are growing concerned about penicillin-resistant gonorrhea…A friend of mine at work, he was gay and sexually promiscuous, and now he’s gone….So I don’t think ranting about “male patriarchal conception” will prevent one from being infected. Incidentally, just to let you know, Asian guys who choose to steer clear of “sexually liberated” Western women do not consider their decision a “problem” because they know that they are not the ones putting their lives and futures, at risk…..Believe me, there are plenty of available decent, quality Asian women that are ideally suited for long-term, monogamous relationships.

  7. ManilaMemories
    ManilaMemories October 22, 2017 at 8:52 am | | Reply

    Unfortunately, that’s been a common perception for quite some time and it hampers the chances of “decent” women to find meaningful relationships when they are being viewed so unfavorably…..

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