Guest Post: My Abortion in China

An anonymous Western woman sent me this story of getting an abortion in China. She hopes her experience will help other expat women know what to expect.

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(Photo by Andreas Olsson via Flickr.com)
(Photo by Andreas Olsson via Flickr.com)

I woke up early with a nervous knot in my stomach. I grabbed the pregnancy test off the bedside table and made my way to the bathroom. Two weeks ago I’d been through a similar scenario, and the test had come back negative. My husband and I were overjoyed that we weren’t pregnant. Of course we want kids. Someday. Not now. We just registered our marriage in June, we had a wedding planned for January, and we wanted to finally visit my parents back in the States for the first time. We had a plan.

But how two weeks change so much. I am still late, craving large amounts of food, nausea in the morning, tired all the time. I knew I couldn’t blame it anymore on starting a new job or moving to a new apartment. I just knew.

We are always so careful. How could this have happened? But the evidence in my hands left no doubt about it. Pregnant.

And there begins the two worst days of my life. I sat on the toilet in shock and tried to avoid walking back to the bedroom and showing the test to my husband. I thought to the day before, when I had visited a friend who just gave birth to a baby girl. Just one week old. Tiny and sweet. But I remember what I said to my friend when she asked me about having children of my own. “I’m not having children for a very long time. At least five more years.”

I shook my husband awake. He took one look at my face, looked at the pregnancy test in my hands and said, “Shit.”

I burst into tears. He took me in his arms and said apologies in my ear. He said that it’s all his fault, that it would be ok.

Eventually I rubbed my eyes and looked at him tearfully. “We need to go to the hospital.”

He looked sad. “I know.”

It’s a talk we’ve had many times before. What will we do if birth control somehow doesn’t work? We would have an abortion. My husband has a job lined up, but he hasn’t started yet. I’m the provider, working as an English teacher in China. I’ve been told by my brother-in-law and by people at my school that, as a foreigner, if I get pregnant I will probably lose my job and my working visa. We knew what we would decide if we got pregnant, but making the decision and going through with it are two very different things.

The upside of our decision was that I was in the right place to do it. Abortion procedures are so easily accessible in China. There was no need to search for abortion clinics or see which hospitals could perform the procedure. We just had to take a short trip to a nearby hospital, whose Gynecological department was swarming with heavily pregnant women and very young and scared women I surmised were in a similar situation like me. My white skin and tall stature made me stick out like a sore thumb, but for once in my life in China, no one really stared or pointed. People respected my privacy as we spent the better part of an afternoon trudging from doctor’s offices to blood sample rooms. We had to wait in an absurdly long line of pregnant women to get an ultrasound, which we had to repeat twice. Finally, our situation was confirmed. Pregnant. Approximately 5 weeks.

Before we had a chance to process the news, the doctor turned to my husband, “Do you want to keep the baby or have an abortion?” He quietly answered the latter. And non-judgmentally she went through two options. One is a series of pills they can administer at the hospital that has its own list of side effects. The other, of course, is surgery. When my husband began translating the first option to me, I shook my head.

“Surgery. I want this over.”

Please understand that at this moment, even more than before, I am terrified. All I can think is no. We are not ready. NO. Not now. I can’t. We can’t. I asked if we could get the surgery immediately, but the earliest we can get the abortion is the following morning. She then laid out the process to my husband in detail, while I failed to keep many of my tears at bay.

More damn tests proceeded to see if I’m able to have an abortion. When I was deemed able to go through the surgery, I was scheduled for the next morning around 9 AM.

At home, I laid in bed and cried. I cried because I was sad. I was crying because I felt guilty. Mostly I was frustrated. I wanted it over. I felt like I couldn’t wait another day. I felt an awareness inside me and it didn’t feel like a growing life to me, only a ticking bomb. We didn’t sleep much that night.

In the morning, I was not allowed to eat or drink anything besides water. The hospital was bustling with people. My husband tried to help me feel better about the situation, but he was also dealing with his own grief. It’s hard on both of us. There are lots of forms to sign. My husband had to pick up the general anesthesia, and some other vials from the hospital pharmacy. I had to bring my own toilet paper, and some pads for after. When we were talking to the surgeons, I noticed that there are many other girls who look younger than me and who have the same stack of papers I do: Blood work, EKG results, ultrasound. Some of them were alone. A few of them had a friend with them. I tried to send some of them a light-hearted smile, which I’m sure turned out more like a grimace. And in a group of four, they took us behind the double doors labeled “surgery rooms”. Then they split us into pairs. Me and another girl followed the nurse into a room, where another doctor called my name and told me to undress everything below my waist. The other girl stared openly as I complied and set my pants and underwear in a tray. Then the nurse led me into the surgery room.

To my shock, I saw I’d been taken to a proper surgery room, equipped with not one, but two tables. One was already occupied with a girl laid on her back with her legs wide open and tied to stirrups. In retrospect I understand the practicality of this, but it was so morbid. Like an assembly line of abortions. My heart was pounding so much I was afraid I might be having an anxiety attack. One of the nurses used my roll of toilet paper to lay on the end of the table. I climbed onto the table and assumed the same position as the lady lying on the table next to me. After they tied my legs onto the stirrups, the nurse told me to relax. I did the exact opposite. The girl next to me stared at me and I looked back at her and tried to give her a reassuring smile, which she returned. Once the anesthesia began to take affect, my nerves slid away and then it was black.

I lost all sense of time. Suddenly, I was gently shaken awake. I heard someone say to me, “It’s ok. It’s over.”

I somehow had been moved onto a gurney and wheeled into a recovery room. But as soon as I heard it’s over, I felt my back ache and pain in my lower abdomen. Then I knew for sure. It was over.

I recall reading once that the most common emotion women feel after an abortion is relief. So surely something must be wrong with me because all I felt was a sudden rush of intense sorrow. I stayed in recovery longer than others because I couldn’t stop weeping. Nurses crowded around and tried to help me calm down because my heart rate was too high. I kept telling them the same thing over and over. Sorry. I’m sorry. I’m not sure who I was saying sorry to. To the nurses? The aborted fetus? I’m not sure.

Those nurses were the definition of support. I couldn’t pick myself off the gurney, but somehow they helped. One of the nurses rubbed my back as I sat up and told me I’d be ok. Another took my underwear and stuck on one of the pads I brought with me. The third nurse took some tissue I had brought and wiped my face. Light-headed from the anesthesia and crying, I needed help getting dressed and help walking to a chair. I sat, still grieving. The nurse was desperately telling me it was ok and wiping my tears. I’m sorry, I said.

After a short while, I felt a strong need to be with the only person who could give me the comfort I needed. My husband. I swallowed my tears and nodded to the nurse I was ready to leave. Walking made me realize how sore I was after the procedure and how dizzy the anesthesia made me feel. A nurse steadied me as I walked back down the hall toward the double doors leading into the waiting room. She tells me I can’t eat spicy food and that I need to lay down as much as I can the next few days. We walk through the doors and she calls for my guardian. My husband springs up from his seat and puts his arm around me, helping me walk.

I’m glad to be in his embrace but I can’t look him in the eye.

“Are you ok?” He asks. “No,” I answer.

We went home in a taxi. Every bump and jolt hurt. When we arrived home, I went to our bed and laid down. I tried not to cry because I can see this is taking a toll on my husband as well and I don’t want him to feel upset. But not crying just isn’t an option. I dissolved into tears and he silently took off his shoes and spooned in behind me. I’m sorry, we said to each other. I fell asleep. When I woke up, he has cleaned everything, and ordered beef stew and bread. He watched me eat every bite.

As I just began a new job, there was no one who worked at my school who I trusted enough to tell about the abortion. So the next morning I had to piece myself back together long enough to teach classes. And the next two weeks went on very similarly. I would go teach classes, walk home, crawl into bed and sleep. I didn’t see my friends. I didn’t want to see my friend or her new baby. I would often burst into tears.

Slowly, after about a week I finally started telling some of my most trusted friends and one of my sisters because I realized I needed to talk to someone other than my husband. They all listened and told me I did what was right for me and I can feel however I need to feel about what happened. One of those friends was my friend with her newborn baby. I went over a little more than a week after the abortion and my friend let me hold her baby girl in my arms for the first time. I held that baby, trying not to start weeping. My friend sat next to me, threw an arm around my shoulder telling me it’s ok to be sad, but I don’t need to feel sad forever.

And so now it’s been three weeks. Am I still sad? Not really. Sometimes. I can at least talk about it without sobbing. Finally, I feel relief. I’m confident in the decision we’ve made.

I’m even more confident in my choice of spouse. Before, I was very cautious with the idea of marriage. It seemed to be an institution that was more convenient for men rather than women. I know too many women where this is the case. If I ever had any doubts about marrying my husband, those two worst days of my life washed all uncertainty away. He doesn’t realize even now how amazing he was — how wonderful he cared for and treated me.

He gave me full agency over this decision. “It’s your body. I will not tell you what to do with it.”

He reassured me that whatever my choice, he would agree with me, and he would continue to love and support me. In the end, it’s a decision we made together, and we dealt with it together. I sometimes think about those other girls at the hospital who had come alone to go through the surgery on their own, and wish those men who had gotten them pregnant had the decency to support them. In those moments I think how happy I am to have someone I can lean on during hard times.

But I cannot go through this again. The next step for me is to obtain better birth control. I had been on the pill before, but since finding out that IUDs are very easy to get in China, I’m already making plans to get one of my own. I want to make the chances of us having children now almost impossible. I want to start a family when we are financially and mentally ready to take care of children. I want to experience that moment where you read pregnant on the test and you burst into tears of joy. But not today. Not anytime soon.
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Guest Post: Nothing Can Prepare You for Living with Chinese Relatives

Becky writes, “there is nothing within a traditional British upbringing that can prepare you for living with Chinese relatives.” If you’ve ever lived with Chinese family, this post is for you.

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slothloveWhen Disney taught me about happily ever after, they forgot to add in some additional clauses about cross-cultural relationships. In particular the challenges that accompany a AMWF (Asian Man, White Female relationship). Thus when I fell in love last summer to the sweetest, gentlest man I’d ever met, I never realised that the happy ever after I’d always longed for had inadvertently sent me on a cultural collision course. In fact, despite being in my mid-20’s, I assumed, as my good friends Cinderella and Pocahontas had once taught me, that love could, and would, solve everything.

As I’m rudely awoken on the other side of the planet a year or so later by my boyfriend’s mobile, I can’t help thinking I may have been a little naive. I pretend to be asleep despite knowing exactly what will happen next. Sure enough, within minutes the doorbell, which his mum has erected in his room, starts ringing. From this point I know that my cuddle time is very shortly to expire. As if on cue, I hear shouting in Mandarin coming progressively closer and, before I have time to move, his mum barges into the room and begins tidying around us.

It’s hours before I’d planned to get up. It’s Saturday. I want to cry.

I’d never planned to be in this position, but after my partner’s student visa had expired and following eight-months struggling with the many nuances of long-distance relationships, we’d decided that enough was enough and so, despite protests from my friends that I was crazy, I packed my bags and headed to live with my boyfriend, and his Chinese parents.

A month into the experience and I can say categorically that there is nothing within a traditional British upbringing that can prepare you for living with Chinese relatives.

In the UK, we are taught to strive for independence, in China children are taught to be deferent to their elders. In the UK we value personal space, in China the concept doesn’t really exist. In the UK we are reminded that it’s the taking part that counts, in China people are reminded that success (which is largely measured by the size of your bank balance) is what matters.

None of these things are right or wrong but the gulf between the two can, at times, seem unbridgeable.

Perhaps the hardest thing for a westerner trying to make AMWF’s work is that you have to completely redefine your concept of space. The fact that you are a grown adult and have been making your own life decisions for many years ultimately means very little. For example, you will be asked many times a day about your food; what you’ve had, when you had it and would you like anymore?

This is nothing more than an expression of love, and to be treated with such hospitality is something you’d be unlikely to find back at home. Nonetheless, when the first question you’re asked each morning is what are you having for breakfast, it can get a little grinding.

For all the times I want to scream (and there are many), there’s the time I get to spend with my best friend. The truth is that however hard it gets, being without the person you love would be far worse.

For those considering moving to the East to be with their loved one, you must be aware that the step you are trying to make is a huge one. You will feel nagged, claustrophobic and completely alien. If that sounds daunting, then it’s meant to. But if your partner is prepared to make you part of his family, and you’re prepared to sacrifice so much in moving to be with him, then it sounds like your awkwardly packaged happy ending might be something worth fighting for.

penanghillBecky is a self-confessed golf addict blogging about the world’s best, quirkiest and most obscure golf courses at The Nomadic Golfer.
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Guest Post: Kiss and Tell from China and the UK

What’s the difference between dating in China and the UK? Here’s one personal take on that question from Miriam, including the story of how she met her Chinese husband.

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The author with her husband and his family.
The author with her husband and his family.

I came to China at the age of 26 and already knew about more divorces than I could count on both hands and feet (including my parents), as well as many more single women my age than married (or happily partnered) ones. I’d also had enough experience with men to know I wasn’t impressed with the dating and marriage culture in the UK.

One evening in the UK I was out having a drink with two female colleagues after work. While I was at the bar, an attractive guy in his late 20s/early 30s came up to me.

“I just got promoted today and I’d love to buy you a drink to celebrate.”

I was flattered by this and looked back at my colleagues to make sure they didn’t mind me being waylaid. The two girls looked back and me with smiles on their faces and motioned for me to keep talking to him.

“Thanks, a gin and tonic would be great.”

We got talking and I found myself thinking: why would this guy not have a girlfriend already? To find out whether he was single or not I casually asked: “So where’s your girlfriend tonight?”

“Oh, she’s at home having a night in with the girls.”

What!?!? And this wasn’t the only time.

For several months a man used to come into my work in the UK just to talk to me. They didn’t seem like especially romantically driven exchanges – he would just ask me how I was and talk about other neutral topics. However, finding myself bored of being single, I took the plunge and asked him out. If he had a girlfriend he would decline and we would go back to regular, friendly chit-chat. I was pleased when he accepted my invitation for coffee, but still had a little doubt in my mind. I decided to act on these doubts and ask directly whether he was seeing anyone else.

“So, do you have a girlfriend?”

“Yes, I have two actually. One’s 25 and the other’s 32.”

I repeat: what?!?!?

He proceeded to talk to me about how much difficulty he had deciding on which girl he should be with, but felt no rush to make a decision about it right away. I was tired of this attitude towards dating, which seemed to be getting more and more common.

The author's husband proposing to her
The author’s husband proposing to her

Before coming to China, I was open to the idea that it might be for the long-term, as my job prospects would be better in China. On researching Chinese culture before I came to China, I was pleased to read about the emphasis on marriage and also pleased about the less liberal attitude towards sex. In saying this, I’m not suggesting that I thought it would be “easy” to get married in China, or that there would be any fewer relationship difficulties than I might have had in the UK. However, just knowing that marriage was valued and that both men and women were strongly encouraged to seek marriage at my age gave me a sense of security and confidence that I hadn’t had before.

I met my husband on a dating website. His profile told me he was 34 and “looking for marriage”. He messaged me first saying something about his surprise seeing a British woman on an Asian dating website and we exchanged a few emails after that. From his emails he was clearly talkative, charming and open-minded (willing to talk about anything from Astrology to books on popular science). And yes, he had excellent English (a very understandable barrier to AM/WF relationships as mentioned on Jocelyn’s blog in different posts). Just over a year after we met he proposed to me on a beach in Qingdao and the following year we got registered as married.

My family in the UK are all delighted for me and I’ve been told numerous times about what an excellent choice of husband I’ve made! My in-laws in China were also incredibly supportive of our relationship from the start and my mother-in-law especially treats me like I’m her flesh and blood daughter. Although we’ve gone through our rough patches, my husband’s complete commitment to the values of marriage and family have made it so much easier to resolve any conflicts or misunderstandings as soon as they occur. We’re both committed to making our future a happy and fulfilling one, even though we both know that a happy marriage takes work. I’m also delighted that my husband is now planning our approaching wedding party in China with as much zeal and enthusiasm as his bride!

partyP.S.: This comparison is just from my experience of living and dating in the UK and China. I do know many happily married British couples from my generation…just not as many as you might expect. Please don’t be offended if you’re a British woman who isn’t the least bit interested in getting married, or a British man who would like nothing more than to walk down the aisle, or a Chinese man who has ‘two girlfriends’ and isn’t looking for a wife!

P.P.S.: If you’ve had similar experiences dating in the West then you may be interested in the book Date-onomics: How Dating Became a Lopsided Numbers Game by Jon Birger. Although the book is written about dating in America, many of the points apply to the UK as well.

Miriam is a British woman married to a wonderful Chinese man. Her interests are reading, thinking and writing and she works as a teacher in an international school in China.
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Guest Post: Food Preferences and Dining Etiquette in a Southern Chinese Home

I’m thrilled to share this guest post from Maria Deng, who authored AMWF Couples — A Canadian Perspective, one of my favorite AMWF guest posts on this blog. This time she writes about a topic I’m sure you all love — food!

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My husband’s family is from the province of Guangdong, which is located in Southern China. In this part of China, they speak Cantonese. I have always known dinner to be 吃饭, which translates to ‘eat rice’. When I first had dinner at my husband’s home, I noticed many differences in not only the food served however, in the dining etiquette as well.

Pot Of Apple Soup, Prepared By Maria’s Mother-In-Law
Pot Of Apple Soup, Prepared By Maria’s Mother-In-Law

The Importance Of Soup

I noticed that my husband’s family had a small bowl of 汤 (soup) at the beginning of each meal. My 家婆 (mother-in-law) or 老爺 (father-in-law) would say 喝汤 (drink soup) before drinking. I began searching for the spoon at my place setting however, my husband had told me that soup is consumed by bringing one’s bowl up to their mouths. Afterwards, the pieces of meat or other items in the soup would be eaten with chopsticks once the liquid was finished. After the first few times of eating at my husband’s home, I then realized that this was much easier than eating soup with a spoon. Now, I always drink my soup in this fashion, without even giving the spoon a second thought.

An Entire Fish, Prepared By Maria’s Father-In-Law
An Entire Fish, Prepared By Maria’s Father-In-Law

Fish Eye

I also saw an entire fish being served for the first time at the dinner table. I didn’t know that fish was served in this fashion however, upon seeing it, I was told by my husband that 鱼 (fish) is quite important in the Chinese culture. I was surprised though when I first saw my husband eating the fish’s eyeball with such ease, something that to this day, I have yet to muster up the courage and try.

Pass The Toothpicks

Using toothpicks to clean one’s teeth after a meal was something I had never seen before. I noticed this happened at all of my husband’s family functions. When cleaning the teeth with a toothpick, one would place their hand in front of their mouth, which made it impossible to see the mouth or teeth. It was definitely a cultural difference for me as I had never seen that before however, I have become accustomed to it, welcoming the gesture with comfort.

Steamed White Rice

I always noticed a rice cooker filled with steamed, white rice on the counter-top when dining with my husband’s family. At first, I said to my husband, “is there any sauce or dressing that goes on top of this rice?” My husband then laughed, stating that in the Chinese culture, eating steamed, white rice was normal. I have now learned to eat steamed, white rice at times however, I do tend to slip in some sauce, which immediately brings a friendly roar of laughter from my husband’s family.

Maria ‘Attempting’ To Use Chopsticks
Maria ‘Attempting’ To Use Chopsticks

Chopsticks Or Fork?

Using 筷子 (chopsticks) was definitely a struggle for me. I had used chopsticks in the past when eating sushi however, rarely when eating other types of food such as rice, meat, or vegetables. I often struggled when dining with my husband’s family, which made me feel embarrassed at times. Luckily, I was given a pair of ‘beginner chopsticks’, which helped in making the necessary transition. However, I still struggle to this day when eating certain foods. Luckily, my mother-in-law places a fork on the table in-case needed.

These are just a few of the differences I have noticed, with many more as each dinner passes. However, embracing these differences have allowed me to form a deep appreciation for the food and etiquette one’s culture can bring to the table.

Have you noticed any food preferences or dining etiquette differences in the home of a friend or partner? If so, I would love to hear about them!

Maria Deng currently resides in Ontario, Canada with her husband Joey, who originally hails from Guangzhou, China. She loves reading about AMWF relationships, and looks forward to writing more about her experiences being married to a Chinese man.
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Guest Post: A Chinese Family Refused To Hire Me Because I’m Black

Linda Ogutu

Linda Ogutu, a Kenyan living in Scotland, shares what happened to her when she applied to be an au pair with a family in China. She writes, “I think I ‘knew’ that discrimination does take place, but now I KNOW based on experience.”

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Linda Ogutu
Linda Ogutu

I applied for a job. A cultural exchange job as an au pair in China. I enjoy traveling and desire to explore and experience cultures which are different from my own. Going to China would have been one way to begin traveling around Asia as I had always wanted to do that.

I applied for the job being hopeful, but also reminding myself that nothing may come of it.

I received a response much sooner than I had expected. Oh how I was giddy with excitement!

We arranged a time to video-chat. We exchanged pleasantries and then we were off to official business. I was asked where I was from and following my response, the interviewer apologized profusely and said I unfortunately did not fit what they were looking for.

“Oh! I am so sorry but unfortunately we will not be able to take you. My partner does not like black people. I was going to try and convince them if you were from the West, but since you are not, they will not accept it at all. I am so sorry, really.”

Of course I understood and wished them all the best in their search.

I was disappointed the family did not want to take me as the husband of the lady that interviewed me probably had ingrained in his mind all the negative stereotypes of black people. I wasn’t angry at her as she knew I was black (we have to provide a profile photo on the au pair website). I also surprisingly wasn’t angry at her husband because I knew he just had the wrong idea of what black people are like.

I thought about their response and honestly was not surprised by it.

I have been prepared for experiences like these as my father always told my siblings and me that a day would come when we would unfortunately have to experience discrimination based on either our gender, the colour of our skin, or our religious beliefs. He had experienced his fair share whilst studying in the West when he was younger. He always reminded us that when people discriminate it is because they don’t know.

I think I ‘knew’ that discrimination does take place, but now I KNOW based on experience. Granted it wasn’t extreme as in most other cases. I suppose now it has made me more aware, but I don’t want to ever get to a point where I lash back or hate those that discriminate against me. I’d honestly rather fight hatred with love; MLK and Gandhi-style (haha).

I would still apply for another au pair job in China. I know not all Chinese still view black people in a negative light. Also, I could probably au pair for a foreign family living in China as well.

As for the Chinese family who interviewed me, I wonder if the husband’s mind will ever be opened. Someday. Perhaps.

Linda Ogutu is a Kenyan living in Scotland. She blogs about her experiences at http://comeseewhatiknow.tumblr.com.
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Guest Post: What Do Pickup Artists Tell Us About Dating?

I’m thrilled to welcome Wang Jia (who you might remember from his AMWF TEDx speech) back to the blog with a post exploring the world of Pickup Artists (PUA).

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Pick-up artists (PUA) present one of the most controversial issues in the modern dating world. According to Wikipedia, PUA is the seduction community and their goal is to achieve sexual success with women. In the past 10 years, due to the success of the book “The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists”, PUA has grown from some thousands of geeks exchanging pickup lines to a multi-million dollar industry.feature Wingmen_1575.indd

While many feel appalled at PUA, I think it provides a unique angle to look at the modern romantic relationship. Though not a PUA myself, I have come across many of them while preparing my previous TEDx speech. [https://youtu.be/sWnAtLt8kSs] Some are very helpful to provide me an inside look into the dating world. And I think their argument/explanations are in general sensible and well grounded. Some PUAs are even interviewed by Jocelyn to provide advice for Asian men. [JT Tran interview: https://www.speakingofchina.com/ask-the-yangxifu/jt-tran-asian-playboy-interview/]

So why do we have polarized impressions/opinions against PUA?

Though much PUA stuff is self-help and aiming at improving men’s life style, the ultimate goal of PUA is predominantly sex – to have as many “lays” as possible (in PUA language). For many women that is a real turn-off. It seems that many women believe PUAs often play tricks to achieve short-term benefit of having sex.

I see that men’s impression of PUA differs a lot from women. Men often feel that they have some kind of privilege when they are able to have sex with many women. I am no exception. For a period of time, I secretly admired those who can easily find sexual partners, and I was very insecure due to the lack of success. PUA comes in to help. But is that the best way? Has the Western culture set many desperate men to that route?

Are PUAs happier than average men?

Arguably PUA is mainly for those who believe “more women = better life”. As many things in life: the quality is more important than quantity.

Nearly all PUA gurus have sex addiction. They especially enjoy the variety of sexual choices, but they cannot sustain a long term monogamous relationship. Getting married is the end of their life style – a great example is the author of the book “The Game” Neil Strauss, who basically announced GAME OVER when he finally got out of a lot of trouble and married. I think top PUAs are basically different human beings than average men like me. I was always looking for that special one person, and I am very happy to keep her in my life. Some men thought that PUA life style is the happy world. They end up in a deeper trouble.

But to be fair, compared to those men with zero access to sex, PUAs are certainly happier.

Is it true that those people who practiced PUA significantly changed their dating lives?

Some men certainly did, but only those who are disciplined and keep trying for an extended period of time. At the beginning it’s not fun. PUA is like many other skills or professions: theory is not hard to find – still no results without practice. If you are only looking for a shortcut to solve your problems you will be disappointed.

Does PUA prove that we all make irrational decisions constantly in dating?

We are emotional creatures, and we don’t make many relationship decisions based on logical thinking. Is that the fundamental reason why women can be manipulated? Mmm, that’s a good Ph.D. topic for social psychologists. (I reserve it for my next life. One Ph.D. title is enough J) Well, many PUAs do claim that their methods have a neuro-psychological foundation. I don’t think scientific research is that far yet.

Should I believe that PUA can make me a dating master in a short time?

As I mentioned, I don’t believe there is the quick and easy shortcut. Even though 90% PUA sites try to sell you a shortcut/trick/secret. I believe that the right PUA method does give men a workable system to improve. It is A method, not THE method. There are already honesty-based methods immerging. (Ironically, developed partially by ex-PUAs.) And I believe that’s the better direction to help men. Search for names like Mark Manson, Johnny Berba, Johnny Soporno, Nick Sparks.

Would I recommend PUA methods to Asian men?

It depends. If you are fully aware of the potential negativity of PUA, by all means, try it. If you are disadvantaged in some parts of the world due to lack of understanding how dating works, PUA has a lot of good explanations on Western dating processes. But, (a big BUT) I would rather recommend to focus on self-improvement: communication skills, confidence, healthy life style, purpose in life, understanding yourself, etc. – in another word, those things that are bigger than just sex. Many ex-PUAs find that period of life more of a stepping stone to something more meaningful.

PUA methods come from real world experiences and they give good examples of how practice + feedback can take you to another level. This method is similar as in many scientific fields. I explained this in my recent TEDx speech “ Chemistry of Relationships”. [https://youtu.be/TZC-_h8rl9w]

(This TEDx speech is not about PUA. But my next TEDx is coming. And my plan is to bring up the PUA topic.)

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There is often no yes-or-no answer. The existence of PUA has deep-rooted reasons in human society. Many questions remain. How do you think PUA will impact our dating world in the future? Have you met a PUA? Please give your opinion here. I am interested to hear! Questions are welcome. I am happy to comment. And it may help me to prepare my speech. But keep in mind, I am just an amateur PUA expert.

Wang Jia delivered a TEDx speech on AMWF: Western Women, Eastern Men (https://youtu.be/sWnAtLt8kSs). He also blogs about the chemistry of relationships at whyamwf.wordpress.com.
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Guest Post: The Traditional Chinese Wedding That Changed Me & My Dating Preferences

Have you ever attended a wedding that changed the way you thought about yourself — and who you want to date? That’s what happened to Joanna Scarpuzzi, who writes, “Even though I thought I had grown up under much Chinese culture and influence, nothing had prepared me for the experience that this wedding was.”

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Joanna Scarpuzzi
Joanna Scarpuzzi

Growing up in a mixed family (my dad is White-American, and my mom is Asian-American), I was excited to see who my siblings and I would date and eventually marry. All of us kids were homeschooled until were in 9th grade so our circle of friends was pretty small. I remember my sisters and I having crushes on White boys and Asian boys alike. My brother, also, dated a Chinese girl, a mixed girl, and a White girl, in that order.

It wasn’t until we were college age that our preferences became more evident. My sisters felt that Asian culture was too traditional and exclusive dated White boys. I, on the other hand, moved to China in 2010 to teach at an international school in an attempt to learn more about my Asian roots. During my six years abroad, if someone were to ask me if I could see myself married to a Chinese man, I would have told them, without a doubt, yes! I loved everything about Chinese culture: the food, the language, the community aspects, the filial piety.

Then, I attended a traditional Chinese countryside wedding. A group of us foreigners spent a weekend at a hotel awaiting the wedding festivities for our friend and coworker. The whole time we were there, we were not allowed to do anything remotely relating to helping with preparations. We were treated like honored guests.

The morning of the wedding, we joined the friends and family in the courtyard of the house. Cousins climbed up on the roof to bang pots and pans and set off firecrackers to welcome the wedding party.

After a short traditional ceremony in the courtyard, the bride and groom were ushered into their wedding chambers where they sat on a red-blanketed bed with posters of naked babies on the wall behind them. On that bed, they played some teasing games while the groom’s friends and relatives tossed nuts and dried fruit at them.

It was during this time that I realized how very different I really was. Even though I thought I had grown up under much Chinese culture and influence, nothing had prepared me for the experience that this wedding was. It was so different from my expectations for weddings, and made me realize I would not want a wedding like this, which made me wonder if it was really just the wedding or if it was something more.

It was this experience that caused me to ponder on the fact that perhaps I wasn’t being honest with myself when I told people I could see myself ending up with a Chinese man. Maybe I’m more independent than I thought or maybe my version of being raised the Asian way was a mixture of East and West. Maybe I wasn’t willing to give up being “comfortable” in America to truly connect with my roots. Whatever the reason, someday I hope to find a man who embraces my world, a perfect blend of Chinese and American culture.

After living in China for the past six years, Joanna Scarpuzzi is now back in the US and writes about teaching and her experiences with culture, specifically Asian culture.
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Guest Post: How I Met My Asian Christian Grey (Reader Discretion Advised)

Flye Hudson, a Lesbian Pickup Artist, shares the story of how she met her “Asian Christian Grey” in this guest post. She also reveals an excerpt from her new memoir PET., the story of how she was seduced by her Asian Christian Grey and how they both joined forces to become prominent members of the underground seduction community.

(NOTE: Flye references sexual content and language that may be offensive to some readers. Reader discretion is advised.)

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GUESTPOST1A lot of people aren’t aware of the different types of relationships that occur for AMWF couples. A lot of people aren’t aware of the true dominance that Asian men really have. I read a lot of… romance books. And believe it or not, many of them are cheesy. What I’ve lived however is something that is very much on the dark side. A chaotic and messed up romance life in an underground community of seduction artists. I still can’t believe I am living the real thing.

There have been a lot of crazy things that have happened with my partner and I. We met off of a fetish website that catered to BDSM, which I was referred to by my former sorority sister. When I had filled out my profile, I was also trying to get back at my now ex girlfriend who had cheated on me with her girlfriend and her former boyfriends. I had specifically wrote in that I had high preferences for Asian men but was open to all kinds of men (at the time I didn’t think most Asian men would be attracted to my plainness. I was definitely the cat loving, rock loving, emo scene kind of girl back then unlike today). I had received MANY messages that were very inappropriate, especially some that were racist for me putting down Asian men. It’s amazing how insecure and rude some dudes can be on the internet.

I received a message finally from someone who approached me with the line: “Been hit up by a lot of creepers, huh?” At first I didn’t think anything of it because it was the first normal message I had ever received on the site. So maybe it was a little silly of me, but I went back and forth with him. But after a short exchange of messages, a Skype call, an accidental stand up on a date, and finally meeting in person, we ended up dating and getting into a lot of trouble.

Trouble means a lot of things. From obeying and serving an Asian Master, to having a threesome with my ex girlfriend on Halloween night, to two hospital visits, to learning the art of seduction, to the amazing parties and women we met on the way in our journey, to meeting his traditional Chinese mother who found our sex toy kit, we have been through so much. And while a lot of pain and torment came with some of our adventures, I do not regret them.

To get a taste of those adventures, here’s an excerpt from my new memoir PET.

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IMG_20160508_131208“Hey, did you forget about our date?”

I had already f***** it up! Wednesday at 2. How could I have forgotten? Perhaps it was me checking my bank account every so often that I stressed a little prematurely- I had taken an additional shift at an odd job that I considered to be sweet but had me going more insane than I already was.

“You’re really pretty,” said a six year old, playing with my hair. I look up at a few of the workers. They smiled with their mouths but glared with their eyes.

“You know what I wish?” the boy asked.

“No idea buddy,” I said, brushing off their stares, “What do you wish for?”

“I wish I were a zombie so that I could sneak into your room every night and bite your face off.” He whispered, then proceeding to put his hands around my neck and squeeze. I laughed nervously and looked to the other counselors for help. They stared angrily for a few moments before snatching the kid off and leading him to a different activity.

I didn’t understand my passion for working in such crazy conditions. Maybe I just had a heart for people who needed help- or maybe I was just crazy and wanted to work somewhere that made me feel more normal. But none of it mattered for the time being, because I had just lost the most exciting thing that happened to me all month.

“I’ll make it up to You,” I reasoned, “Let’s do Friday. I’ll buy You lunch, my treat.”

“Sorry, I don’t like getting stood up,” Ryder said, “Good luck in the future.”

“I know, I forgot and I’m sorry,” I said, “but I was really working. I needed the money and I just got paid. Let me treat You out.”

“I don’t know.”

“Is there any way I can make You change your mind?” I asked.

Silence. Five minutes later, my phone buzzed.

Ryder. “Let’s talk on video tonight. Right now.”

“Right now?”

“Why not? Are you a catfish? Why else would you be afraid?”

Because I looked like a pile of s***?

“Give me 30 minutes?” I texted.

“Yep.”

Plenty of time to do makeup and fix that hairrrrrrr.

Within 30 minutes I had clicked onto the video screen, made the call, and then… Wow.

It was love at first Skype.

“Hey,” He said. But at the time, there was no trace of seriousness on Him whatsoever. He was smiling, grinning ear to ear.

“Hello,” I said, immediately attracted to the man who looked better than His pictures online. I couldn’t feel my face for a moment, until He started laughing.

“What’s so funny?” I huffed, feeling insecure, “do You think I’m a catfish?”

“You’re hilarious,” He responded, “and no. I just never took you as a funny girl. But hey, thanks for not flaking on the call. You had me thinking you weren’t real.”

“Funny girl? Of course I’m real,” I justified. “And I’m sorry I flaked. Work, it just-”

Ryder laughed again. “No worries. You’re totally shady though.”

IMG_20160329_130401“Whatever you say,” I said, relaxing, “so You said You’re from Partytown University?”

“Yep. Now I work.”

“What do You do?”

“I’m a manager, remember?”

“Oh, that’s right,” I said, unfolding my fingers into quotes, “Ize Management Major.’”

He only laughed again. “Exactly.”

It was so confusing how calm and happy He seemed. His texts seemed a little more serious, but talking to Him- He was so laid back. It was just different from what I experienced.

But not bad, not bad at all.

“What about you?” He asked.

“I’m a social worker and some other s***,” I said, “interesting jobs.”

“How many jobs do you work?”

“2 part time.”

“How’s the money?”

“Decent enough,” I lied.

“You said you’re from Hometown?” Ryder asked.

“Yeah, it’s the pits.”

“Ain’t hard to imagine.”

“So what brought You to the site?” I blurted out. It was a question weighing heavily on my mind.

Another laugh- in a darker tone.

“I want to find a submissive,” Ryder said, “I had an ex girlfriend a while back who wasn’t into the lifestyle. Wasn’t very fun. So now I’m much more free to do as I please. I’m looking for someone who’s open minded, eager to learn, and who knows the meaning of loyalty. And what brings you here?”

“Have You ever had a submissive before?” I asked, cringing at the word ‘loyal’.

“A few. Have you always enjoyed avoiding questions?” Ryder snickered.

“Fine.” I said. Maybe I was playing too many games. “I’m here because I’m tired of the way I’m living my life. I’m not a bad girl or anything. In fact, I’ve usually spent most of my life being busy- even too busy for me. I want to figure out what I really want and experience more out of life with the right person. I just want to find someone that I can grow to love in servitude.”

Ryder’s expression was unreadable.

“I’m used to people f****** around with me,” I said suddenly, “people who like to push me over, use me, play their games. So if You’re here to play games and f*** me over, it’s not going to work.”

“But you’re the one who stood me up, right?” Ryder smirked.

He did have a point.

“Don’t worry,” Ryder said, “you’re not the only one in that boat.”

“How many girls have You been with?”

“9 or 10,” Ryder said, “you?”

“About the same,” I said.

“Guys or girls?”

“Girls.”

“So you’re a pimp,” Ryder teased, “or should I say a madam.”

“No, that’s not nice,” I pouted.

“But I’m not a nice guy,” Ryder winked.

Something peered at me from inside the closet.

Flye Hudson is also known as “The Lesbian Pickup Artist” and is the author of PET., the story of how she was seduced by her Asian Christian Grey and how they both joined forces to become prominent members of the underground seduction community today. You can contact her at [email protected]
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2016 Blogs by Western Women who Love Chinese Men

One of the things I like about this blog is sharing new perspectives and opinions with the community. And I’d love to hear from you!

I’m always looking for fresh new guest posts and stories to share here.You don’t have to be a perfect writer as long as you have something interesting to say.

If you’ve ever thought about writing for this blog, there’s no better time than right now. As I’m recovering from my hospital stay, I’m hoping to line up more guest posts for the summer and beyond.

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P.S.: I’ll be back on Monday with a fresh new post just for you — stay tuned!

Guest Post: Translating “Tiger Tail Soup” into Chinese

It’s my delight to feature this guest post from author Nicki Chen. Many of you already know her through her lovely blog, Behind the Story, or her novel Tiger Tail Soup (see my interview with Nicki on her book to learn more). Today she shares the behind-the-scenes tale of how she had her novel translated into Chinese — read on!

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NickiPainting-001It’s springtime. The author and the translator are sipping cappuccinos or red wine at a sidewalk café. The translator flips through his dog-eared copy of the author’s book and stops. When the author to finds the same page in his own copy of the novel, they discuss the meaning and intent of a certain phrase. The translator takes notes, and they move on to another page, and then another.

They order more drinks and some snacks. Hours pass. With the sun low in the sky and falling fast, they make plans to meet again. There is much to discuss. Or maybe they go off together to eat at a restaurant they already know well.

I’m not sure where I picked up that rather romantic image of translation. But that’s not the way it works. At least it didn’t for me.

In fact, I wasn’t planning to have Tiger Tail Soup translated.

Cover, 9781457526756cvr-204x300My publisher doesn’t do translations, so I’d put the idea out of my mind. Then one day Siobhan Daiko, who interviewed me on Asian Books Blog, suggested I check out Fiberead.

Fiberead is a translation and publishing company based in Beijing. It’s quite new, but I think they have a good model. The author pays no upfront costs, and the profits are shared—30% for the author, 30% for the translators, and 5-10 % for the editor. The rest goes to Fiberead. Fair enough, don’t you think?

The whole process, from submitting my document and being accepted all the way through publication, took a little over six months. Recruiting and choosing the translators and editor took six weeks. Thirty eight translators applied. Three were chosen: Ethan, Yang, and Echo (who served also as editor). Sadly, I never had the opportunity to sip wine or coffee with them. Our discussions took place online.

So how do three people translate one book? Well, they simply start at the beginning. (I take chapter one; you take chapter two; you take chapter three.) When they get to the end, they start over again, proofreading their own chapters and the chapters of the other translators. By the time they finish, everything has been gone through by each of the translators at least once.

51JiBUDRJAL._SX373_BO1,204,203,200_The translators were great! I really enjoyed working with them, discussing names and places and the feelings and intentions of my characters. Echo, the translator/editor, studied at Xiamen University, so he was familiar with Xiamen and Gulangyu where my novel was set. Ethan talked about spending a week on Gulangyu Island before he left for England to get a Masters in Translation. All three of them had excellent English skills and were unfailingly professional and courteous.

In China, the translation of Tiger Tail Soup is available on Amazon.cn and on DouBan. It’s also available in the United States on Amazon.com. It’s only being sold in digital form, but who knows? If it sells well, I might put out a paperback edition in Chinese.

Tiger Tail Soup is available in English in both digital and paperback editions on Amazon.com, barnesandnoble.com, Apple iBooks, and in bookstores. It can also be purchased on Amazon.co.uk.

I appreciate this opportunity to tell you about the translation of my novel. Thank you so much to Jocelyn for her friendship and support.

reading in MonroeNicki Chen is the author of Tiger Tail Soup, and blogs about her writing and more at Behind The Story.
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